2 hour commute twice a week

When I lived in WA there were a LOT of horrible (white) drivers who, as my roommate put it all learned to how to drive in the sticks on a tractor and has no idea how to handle real cars on the almost traffic-free roads & freeways in the small town where I lived. The Bay Area is another place, like LA, where you really have to limit your geographical options when looking for jobs. I used to have a 45 minute commute, which was absolutely unheard of for Ogden at the time. Many years ago we moved away from Orange Country and traffic was one of the big reasons. As Allison said, its not unheard of. They also put out a book called the Book of the Year which was great. I usually have a book Im reading in paperback (or on my kindle) and then something via audibook, so I understand not everything being on audiobook. My work allows me to flex my hours around my commute so that I never have to deal with rush hour. I need to take a bus (7 miles) to reach either of those. -Have a go-to sing-a-long playlist. I wish you luck adjusting your circumstances to something that works for you! Front Runner (mass transit) is about 90 minutes. I used to have a 65 minute commute for my first professional job. So, the speed of travel you describe seems pretty normal for LA, but thats exactly why people dont live 30 miles from their workplace if they can help it! Not only was it long and tiring, since it was public transportation, I was always stressed out about whether a leg of the trip was going to get messed up, thus throwing off the entire thing. No regrets. So, yeah, something can be typical for a region, but that doesnt mean you have to leave the region to get a better commute. I used to live in LA got a job in Santa Monica and commuted from the Valley. ), and the JOB was miserable. oops, replied in the wrong place, but at least it sorta fits here! I mean, Im screaming inside and my commute is regularly an hour and a half! Thats closer to 45 minutes 1 hour. It is doable for me, and Im not driving that entire time. It will be easier in the long run. Thats below 15 mph the entire way. Good luck! It took me 45 minutes to come home. I live in West Los Angeles. I would also argue its merging/splitting of freeways that brings 8 lanes to 2 for a mile stretch, and the consequent lane changes that can cause accidents. A typical day is an hour each way and terrible days (rain, accidents, ungodly traffic) is between 1.5 and 2 hours each way. I would only move back to San Francisco if I could live AND work in the city. I live in LB and commute to Weho @Princess Consuela. Granted my commute is about an hour each way, but I spend none of that actually behind the wheel of a car so I could spend it doing any number of useful and/or interesting things so I dont mind it so much. On the plus side for people in LA, the NYC subways (and also Long Island Railroad) are deteriorating in such a rapid way that although a person might normally have, say, a 45-minute commute, about once a week itll be 90+ minutes. I live and work in different parts of LA than you do, but I and my husband have both had some really awful commutes since weve moved out here. Yeah, when we lived in LA our home was very strategically placed with regard to work and other places we went. LA traffic is no joke and unless you are able to afford living right next to your work, it is just how its going to be. Jk :) But seriously, Im glad it worked out for you. It would only help for one way, but it would still give you back an hour or so. Thats just over 33 minutes. If I change jobs again, I probably wont accept anything less. If you can move closer or even just to a better positioned location (closer to freeway access or a less clogged entrance, just closer in general) or seek a new job that is closer to where you live, that is 1000000% percent a good idea. You dont have to believe it, I guess, but its true. The only short commute Ive ever had was a 3-month retail job down the hill from my parents house, which was usually ~5-10 minutes. I currently live and work in LB and on a good day, its 7 minutes from door to door. Driving is at least an hour and twenty minutes and it is killing me. Have you considered buying a motorcycle, moped or bicycle? I used to live in southern California and that is not unusual. We wasted a bunch of time and they finally listened to me and my niece got back on the highway. Isnt the only person to answer this you? The 2 hours doesnt surprise me at all. Ive never lived in CA, so I cant speak to whether thats normal for the area, but that sounds miserable and not something you should accept. When moving, we researched transit extensively, tried routes to and from workplaces after being burned by Google Maps estimation in our last city, and determined that the train was the best option, in spite of literally living in a different country than the physical workplace. A police officer happened to be going by them in the turn lane, and they got pulled over since the guys foot kept slipping off the brakes and almost hit the car ahead of him. Ive been clicking through to different infographics for like half an hour now. But some of the people that worked with me commuted from freaking Fairfield! Most of it is interstate driving. What?! This is totally normal for Los Angeles (Im a SoCal native who has lived here all my life). Of course, thats me living out in a rural area, heading into the state capital and downtown. When I go home to visit, I wont even get behind the wheel any longer. But in this case there is wide spread collective knowledge that confirms the traffic. But that same commute on Friday afternoon will take two hours. Southern California isnt well suited to either. Thankfully, he likes to listen to podcasts and audio books, so he wont mind as much (I cant listen to them 30 seconds in, and my mind wanders and I miss the whole thing). Around noon, it takes about 30 minutes sometimes 20 if, for some reason, theres no traffic. Weve been to LA on vacation several times and the traffic was a nightmare even when it wasnt rush hour. My commute (in the suburbs in the northeast) is 45 minutes in the morning, 60-70 minutes in the evening. They take an average of 10 years to complete. I had a 15-minute commute for 11 years. By then, the sky has turned a shade of deep indigo. My sister drives even further, close to 60 miles, and her commute is about an hour. Short answer: No. See what Im saying? I faux commuted to my target neighborhoods to make sure I could handle it. I know people who commute from Napa to Oakland, or Sacramento to San Francisco. Now, where I live (Alabama) my commute is like 10 minutes. At least with my commute it is just me in the car (with my audiobooks or silence, depending on my mood). 2 hours isnot abnormal for this area. My commute is 1 hour, but its on the bus so I get to spend the time as I like. There are so many freeways, and so many work areas nowhere near a freeway. Its absolutely not stupid! came here to ask the same question: why dont you and OP use an (electric) bike? When I lived in LA, I worked off hours (usually 1pm-9pm) and still spent most of my drive not moving in traffic so what should have been a 30 minute commute was normally 1-1.5 hours. I live in Southern California in a large 5 bed, 2 bath house with a HUGE backyard, and our rent is only $2200 a month! I actually have longer hours at my current job, but spend *less* time on work+commute. If youre having trouble visualizing this, check out the old Mythbusters episode where they tested it. Id be on board with public transportation options too, but given how long those take to get funded & built, self driving cars are more likely to happen first. I had an hour long commute by car not long ago and I found that audiobooks made the journey so much more enjoyable. I do think its more about what works for you than what the norm in your region is. It will very unlikely get better, and has the potential to have a huge impact on your mental health and well being. We moved, and now Im just a little too far to walk to the Metra stop by my new house. Regardless of whether its normal (and it doesnt have to be), a 2-hour commute isnt right for YOU. I used to commute on public transit and it took me 1.5 hours (on a good day, 1 hour 10). Anything more would made me very anxious. I drove through 6 school zones. If you had spoken with someone whos lived in LA for a few years, they would have talked you out of it. I wonder if this person is being a little wistful about about their time in new york, too? Im running out of podcasts to binge. I think the conclusion usually is that life is too short to suffer and waste that kind of time. This is a self-imposed problem. I remember in 1999 one of my colleagues saying her commute time had doubled even though she lived and worked in the same places. each way. Good luck! I dont EVER want to own a house (unless I miraculously come into enough money to buy it outright and have lots left over for taxes, maintenance, insurance, etc and to hire someone to oversee it all!) We used to live the next county over, and our commute was easily 45+ minutes (including daycare dropoff). You're awake and nominally functional for 16 hours a day. Good point about the roads! So all that said, Allisons advice is really the best. That experience was so miserable that I have organized much of my adult life to avoid anything even resembling a suburb. I would love to be able to sleep or do my makeup or whatever beyond stressing over the traffic! It really helped me rule out some areas that were lovely and that I had enjoyed visiting on weekends but were misery to get to after work. Yeah, I literally do not do anything during the week. Ive been to LA to visit family and really hated it. I have a 20 minute commute by public transit, so if I get off on time, evenings can be used for dates, hanging out with friends or running work outs. I came here to suggest the LA Metro! It was fine for a while, but that changed drastically when I had a baby and my schedule priorities changed. Its gorgeous out there. If youre crawling on a freeway, have you considered surface streets? However *I* prefer the one thats a quick no-stops jump on the freeway, and he prefers the one thats a leisurely drive on surface streets. I kept telling them that it doesnt matter. Muni is basically the worst. [crosses fingers]. I lived there for 20 years and traffic was always bad. One of my coworkers lives in Simi Valley and commutes to Pasadena daily. We live in a not-overly-big Midwestern city, but unfortunately the placement of the home we own and his workplace means he has a fairly miserable drive. Most people I know live within 10-15 miles of their job in my city, but it will still take them an hour to an hour and a half. Noooo. I got my commute down to 40 minutes each way, and then realized I would rather pay more for a smaller home than spend a bunch of time commuting from a large house. I had to live with my parents in Auburn (a town about 25 miles south of Seattle) for a few months, and if I did not get to the train station by 6:25am, there would be no parking spaces available, and I would have to drive. I moved from Brooklyn to California (Antelope Valley, high desert). (3) I have a boss who understand this and is reasonably flexible with me which I was only able to really get to after working for a little while. I walk home from work when its nice out (prefer not to walk there so I dont end up all sweaty when I arrive at the office if its hot out) and it is so wonderful and soothing. As for Cali traffic, I experienced it when I went there for a business trip a couple years ago. I live 6.5 miles from my home in Arlington, Mass. Ive only done a 2 hr commute when I had an end in sight (I was living at home during an internship to save money, and the second time I was looking for an apartment so I was again living at home). Many others need to hop on a subway once they get into the city. LA is an entirely different level of traffic. You can absolutely take the M train from Bushwick to Broadway-Lafayette in under 45 minutes. But I know not everyone has that luxury. My commutes not bad now, but I miss that! My office is six miles from my home. Not all at the same time, it was just one of the hazards of country driving. Its totally fine. Even here in Denver, where I now live, the population boom has been so dramatic that the traffic is starting to look like L.A. at rush hour. It can easily fudge up to 45+ minutes if Mr. Town and I carpool and we decide to stop for breakfast. If youre not comfortable alone in the park-and-ride, coordinate with boyfriend for drop-off and/or pick-up. Now I go south. Taking that 1 hour class after work might help alleviate rush hour and let you sleep a bit more. Another recent NYC expat here. After sitting in your car for 4 hours, dont waste any of your time TALKING about sitting in your car. I used to live in LB and HB have worked in Santa Monica all the way south to Corona Del Mar. My commute is about 20-30 minutes, including a daycare dropoff. While a two-hour commute is definitely not unheard of, I wouldnt call it NORMAL (I can only think of a small handful of friends and family living in the area who have that long of a commute). Before this, I lived in the large city I work in and my commute was about 45 minutes and a combination of walking and riding the subway. I used to have that. If I lived in a more metropolitan area I wouldnt mind a 1-2 hour commute on mass transit because there would be less stress (not navigating traffic) and I could feasibly check work emails or do anything else on my phone. Unfortunately, public transit wasnt a great option for me. Google that it hurt me just to hear her talk about it. I still live in San Francisco. And once every few months several hours. (and if you dont I can confirm it really makes a difference having gone from not much exercise to running regularly). But I was able to deal because I worked 6-7 hours a day, got a ride home (because there was literally no combination of buses that I could get home on at that hour), and took books, mending, and other busywork with me so I would be occupied on the bus ride. It doesnt really matter what your boyfriend thinks is normal if thats simply unsustainable for you. They each left in the morning, driving an hour in opposite directions. Right now Im at about 45-50 minutes depending on metro waits. I have a two hour one-way commute to work from New Jersey to New York. Great point. Unfortunately it is normal. It looks like OP has already made the decision to quit. but thosere a lot less stressful than 2 hours of stop and go rush hour crap. Twice a week. My average drive time is between 50 and 90 minutes each way for 15 miles. If you cut your commute time in half (down to 1 hour/day total) and spent that newly freed time (6 hours/w Continue Reading 6 Related questions More answers below How can we stay productive yet working continuously for 16 hours? Id take ~40 minute commute on highway or backroads over 15 minutes through neighborhoods and stoplights any day of the week though. This seems expensive and wasteful to me, both in terms of money and life. To those commenters whove weighed in with advice to move closer to work: I think that people who have been in LA for a long time seriously underestimate how challenging this can be in the year 2018 for people who are new to the area and not making six figures or close to it, whether they own or rent. Id stomach 60 mins if most of it was by train. bah! The bus system here is a joke and there are no trains to take, so driving is the only real option for us. If you are only going to have to do the journey twice a week, it's a no brainier if it means you can live in your preferred area. (Its slightly embarrassing for a 38 year old guy to admit, but during my last 6 month contract I managed to get through the whole Harry Potter series. According to google: the city extends for 44 miles (71 km) longitudinally and for 29 miles (47 km) latitudinally. We live in the same town where we work, but across a dividing highway with limited cross-over options, so some of it is just crossing the highway or navigating campus traffic. Repeat. It might not make the commute much shorter but at least you could relax and read a book. I love LB and do not want to leave. I commuted from Huntington Beach to Burbank one timeit wasnt fun, but it was normal to me. Ive been fortunate in seeking work close to public transit. My commute is 1 hr and 45 minutes door to door, assuming no train delays. Reading to North Oxford! Hopefully soon Ill get to spend more time at home. No. At 545AM, Amin Aljunied's alarm clock rings. But Ive done the 1.5+ hour commute for years at a time. Itd be unthinkable. I have 45-60 minutes subway/walking from Brooklyn to Manhattan and I would just like to thank the Original Poster for reminding me that I really dont have it that bad, even though I was cursing out the MTA in my head this morning lol. I loved my one-hour, door-to-door commute when I took Metra (just under 1/2 mile walk from my house to metra and then a little more than 1/2 mile from Ogilvie to my office). But the salient point here is that the OP is asking if she has to just suck it up because *shrug*, thats LA, and so many of us are saying that while LA traffic is indeed ridiculous, there are better and worse commutes, and we are reassuring OP that people in LA do indeed make choices that allow them to have more manageable commutes within the terrible, horrible, no-good traffic. Most coworkers drove but some, including myself, took the train. I was living at home with my parents saving up and my 30K starting salary was not nearly enough for an apartment on my own. Are you getting paid enough for that? Some traffic corridors move and some are parking lots (probably based on whether there are lots of viable alternate routes). I live in a community that doesnt have a train or a commuter rail. I have TAP cards for both LA and San Diego, and I live in Orange County. Leaving a little earlier might be worth it if you find that it allows you to relax more on the road, even if it does increase the overall time. Fullerton, Anaheim, Irvine and Santa Ana have Amtrak and metrolink as well as freeways. So consume as much content as you can. Thirty miles was an hour and a half commuting time on the bus in the HOV lanes and it was so stressful. so long as Im actually moving. 4 years in Boston has only added ~3,000 miles (and >half of that is road trips), but the car is getting much more wear. With a handful of transitional weeks as the exception, Ive had anywhere from a 5-30 minute commute the entire time in LA. I also time out errands and appointments to miss rush hour traffic. I even live in a suburb and commute to downtown and its only 15-20 minutes depending on what time it is. Silicon Valley, for example, has tons of jobs, but not enough housing, so people commute from all over, packing the roadways. This one lady lived down in San Jose- not too far, but right down the dreaded 880. Had I stayed and purchased a house, the ones in my price range were 1.5-2 hours away. I also lived uptown and usually got a seat, so YMMV.). why should employers care about my long commute? Either way, door to door it was a little over 2 hours each way. By the time I get home, half the evening is gone and my cat is hungry and I dont feel like doing anything. Im in content marketing and would love to work for a beauty company but I own a house in rural New England and the city lifes not for me. Id just say that you should see if you can find a new job before you quit. drive (one way). I now live 9 miles from my work and my commute is 45 minutes. Here's better advice: Utilize the Park and Rides from Metro, or the commuter shuttles in your area like The Woodlands Express. Good luck! When I lived in New York I knew people who commuted in from the suburbs, and it generally took them about 2 hours. Currently I live 20 miles north of Seattle and carpool with coworkers, so our commute is ~45 minutes in the morning and then it can be as long as 90 minutes in the afternoon, but usually more like 50-60. I know this is kinda tangential to the question, but I just dont understand how this happens and how its so consistently bad. Just because they dont value their lives and the people in it, doesnt mean the rest of the company has to follow. I assume shes referencing actual surveys of people asking them about the length of their commute, which is their actual experience. I would rather drive than depend on public transportation, which doesnt save me any time at all either. I live in Southern California, Los Angeles area, and when my commute was roughly 25 miles, it took anywhere from 1 hour 15 minutes to 1 hour 30 minutes each way working from 7 4. If OP reads this and thinks, You know, thats not at all the tone hes using, and I dont think hes trying to convince me Im foolish for feeling stressed about this, then hooray. Two deer and two totaled cars in less than a year. Ha! Id walk out of my job before the first week ended. I have lots of friends who dont mind traffic and are willing to siting in it for 1-2 hours each way a day to work at jobs they love. I live 15 miles from all directions from Boston. Seconding this, having just escaped the bay area. I hope you find a great job that is closer. Luckily she was a low key kid who enjoyed listening to music. ? Its pretty normal here. Nothing to suggest hes pressuring OP to keep the job or insisting that she just get over it. Morning commute averages 40 minutes, can be as short as 30 and as long as 75. Ive just started my first office job - any dos and donts? Ive looked at a few jobs in SF specifically because I live in Vallejo, which has one of the ferry buildings, and its only an hour by ferry across. Tracy, Manteca, Stockton, Merced, Sacramento, Vallejo. This is how I discovered audiobooks. I was new to the area and was blinded bc it was a Cool Company and I thought I liked driving after not having a car for 5+ years and was excited about it. My previous job was 45 minutes away still not bad, is it? I dont think Natalie is talking about theoretical calculation of commutes on Google Maps or something. :) We live in Shenzhen. It was horrible. Chances are that the boyfriend isnt trying to be a jerk here (even though he clearly is being one!). That is sadly very normal out here (and thats my current commute). Currently my commute is somewhere between 80-130 minutes each way depending on traffic, but its a temporary contract job (5 months) and I have an untaxed stipend for mileage/food/lodging. yikes thats awful. : $15.00 - $22.00 Per Hour. That being said, my husband isnt from here and will not commute more than 30 min. Hes not wrong though. :). Its much quicker, more reliable, and less stressful to *always* have a 35 minute commute than a car that could get you there in 25-45 minutes whenever you wantor get you stuck on a bridge burning fuel in bumper to bumper traffic for an hour and a half+! I was going to say in my comment above, I didnt mind an hour or even longer commute when I was on public transit and could read, but that would frustrate thefudge out of me! Also, I wonder, how long is your boyfriends commute? I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, about 28 miles outside of the citymy husband commutes via BART (the subway) everyday and it takes about 45 minutes if its running on time which it never isif he were drive, it would easily be 90 minutes one way with traffic if there were no major accidents/road closures. I used to have a seasonal job at a nearby amusement park and from getting in my car to parking in the lot took between 2 and 3 minutes. I tried the drive at 7:00 AM two days in a row, and it turned out to be a nightmareschool buses and dump trucks turned the no-passing areas into parking lots. Ive been trying to reclaim my commute time and think of it as time to recharge, listen to a podcast or audiobook, basically just enjoy myself as much as possible while sitting still staring at taillights. I have been working at home for over 5 years now and cannot imagine going back to a job I had to commute to. Pretty sure Id lose my mind if I sat in traffic, barely moving, for two hours. Someone mentioned Santa Monica above you would be hard pressed to find a 1-bedroom apartment for under $2000 a month. Two of my friends are going to a different uni, which is russell group also, but it is 3 hours away and i wouldn't be able to live at home. About 10 years ago, I lived in the Cleveland burbs and commuted about 1 hour to graduate school (which in that program was a full-time 5-day-a-week job). An excellent point! Maybe 30 minutes if I left before 7:10am. I was actually on the El, just so far up the line that my commute was probably longer than some people taking the Matra. Its a nice way to decompress from the day, as opposed to getting on the T which is usually just as stressful as work, if not moreso. In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Jayton Miller sits down with independent researcher, entrepreneur, and fellow metabolism fanatic Gerogi Dinkov. Speaking as a lifelong Bay Area resident, I would never say that 2 hours is *normal* for the Bay. Plus I got hungry on that long commute. LA is currently investing in more public transit, now, but it will take years before it comes online. I wish I knew how good I had it back then! 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